Police Fleet Forum / VEHICLES / Ford Crown Victoria

Blend Door Motors

Sig220 — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:19:22 GMT

Anyone else having a problem with blend doors??
I have fourteen 2007 Crown Vics in my fleet and to date have had to replace 6 blend doors. Sending these out to a outside vendor for repairs can be expensive, running about $500 a vehicle. Had the Ford service manager make contact with the Ford district rep, but still no assistance with the problem.

I hope the 2007 has more in common with the 2006 models then the 2008 models, as I have 16 of the 2008 in the fleet.

Intake manifold leaks

HLPD503 — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:06:36 GMT

We got a 2007 CVPI and the intake manifold is leaking antifreze. Does any one know if Ford is doing anything about this problem since it's so common?

THX

D

2001 Crank no start intermittant

jmassey139 — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:50:23 GMT

Thank You,

New at this I have a 2001 Police Interceptor with 79,000 miles sits alot twice officer said it would crank no start, I wentr out there and it cranked over and ran. Could here fuel pump, brought back and checked codes no codes, had new IAC motor 5 years ago removed and cleaned no restrictions, cleanded TBI assembly removed. Repalced fuel filter swapped fuel pump and EOC relays with known good ones. Going to let sit outside overnight and see if I have fuel pressure and watch crank signal.

Thank You wondering if anyone has ran across this.

Jerry

2008 Crown Vic

CPD — Tue, 07 Jun 2011 10:55:30 GMT

Is anyone out there having problems with 2008 Crown Vic's Overheating? The symptoms are...The A/C quits blowing Cold Air, then the vehicle overheats a short time later. We have already replaced 2 fans, and 1 "Fan Controller" in my 12 car 2008 Fleet. As far as I know there is not a TSB out for this problem. Any help will be appreicated.

Fuel pumps

SFPD — Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:53:23 GMT

We are starting to experience fuel pump failures. 2009 series around 27,000 miles, had three in a row.

Oil Line failure

cruiserfix — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 08:35:49 GMT

To anyone who is using NAPA #8192123 or Dorman brand 625-200 oil cooler lines. We have had 2 hose failures in the last month. The hoses are fine after they are installed but less than 75 miles later the hose splits and all the engine oil is dumped from the engine. Just FYI

Anyone having trouble with code P2135 had a couple now on 2009

jmassey139 — Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:34:32 GMT

Have had a couple now with this code P2135 and had to replace complete Throttle Body Assembly not a cheap repair.

Washers and Wipers Inter. working on there own will not shut off.

jmassey139 — Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:42:54 GMT

Have had two 2008 wipers start working on there own and will not stop thinking bad multi-function switch.

Crown Vic odometer digits fading

JimD — Tue, 24 May 2011 16:25:54 GMT

We have had trouble with the odometer digits fading on some of our 2008, 2009 & 2010 Crown Vics. This seem to be unrelated to the problem reported by ASETECH. In this case the digits slowly fade over a period of days until they are totally gone. Turning on the headlights or adjusting the dash light dimmer control seems to not make any difference. Some officers report that a sharp rap on the dash makes them come back. I've heard rumors of a cold solder joint in the odometer circuit, but no details. The Ford dealer sends the instrument cluster out to an official repair station to get it repaired since it is dealing with odometer readings.

Anybody else have any experience with this?

Crown Vic dash cluster issue fix

ASETECH — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:56:35 GMT

I just finished with a problem child 08 crown vic. all dash lights on, no odometer. no speedo or tach. Traced problem to no HS Can communication to cluster....twisted Wht/lt grn is Can + and Pnk/lt grn is Can - . the problem was with the Can + wire had very high resistance and sometimes even open at times....real head scratcher. Even made a replacement harness. Finally found the culprit. Just below the hood release behind left kick panel are two gray plugs I pulled the smaller one and it contained those two wires. when I plugged it back in I rechecked my circuit and now had the proper continuity. I removed both wires and bypasses the plug entirely. the terminals were very loose. the problem also seemed to happen more on warm days than cold........give this a shot and let me know.

2003 charging system problems

boardman — Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:39:47 GMT

Why is it that I am having so many issue's with my last two 2003 alternators in my fleet? I can get alternators to charge but the dash battery light stays on. ? . I know that only in 03 they used a special voltage regulator (PCM control). I tried the dealers OEM, Napa and Autozone. The Autozone would not charge, the OEM charged but the light was on and NAPA's charged and the light went out, but the voltage gauge was intermittently spiking. I can't believe that a simple charging system is driving me nuts... It was the second one from the dealer thinking I had a new bad one.

Is the PCM bad? Both cars somewhat at the same time this is happening too. ?

Fuel gauge / float issue 08's

boardman — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:06:57 GMT

Anyone having problems with the fuel gauge and low fuel light on when the tank is full? My officers are telling at the end of shift they fill up the car and park it. The next shift comes on and gets into the car, starts it and the low fuel light is on and gauge is empty. Seems to reset itself after driving it for 50-75 miles. I can see if it was just one car and maybe the float was rubbing on something in the tank causing it to stick, but it has happened on all 6 of my 2008's. And its not ever time, maybe once every 10 fill ups. ??

2008 CVPI and Whelen 295HFS Siren - AM/FM Radio Interrupt

rkorb — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:21:08 GMT

Has anyone had any similar incidents when using a 2008 CVPI and a Whelen 295HFS Siren with the park kill wiring interfaced?

We have been installing these in vehicles for years and this is my first experience when hooking the siren up and and interfacing with the park kill ground wire that the siren when in use - shuts of the AM/FM radio. Even if there is a CD playing - it shuts all the audio off in the vehicle.

If I disable the park-kill wire the AM/FM radio operates normally. I've verified with Ford I am using the correct - Park to Ground wire and Whelen says it is not an expected operation of the siren in that vehicle. I've tried 2 or 3 other sirens with the same result.

Anyone have any ideas?

Rob Korb
Emergency Vehicle Specialists
443.497.6021
http://www.emergencyvehiclespecialists.com

CVPI Transmission Failures

JimD — Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:34:23 GMT

We are an Urban Law Enforcement Agency with 60 CVPIs driving approximately 790,000 miles per year in standard Patrol duty. We have had 6 transmission failures in the past 1.5 years (4 - '06 CVPIs & 2 - '07 CVPIs), all involving the intermediate one-way clutch snap ring. Inspection of the last 3 show the snap ring has come adrift and rattles around between the one-way clutch and the front pump housing. Ford's SSM 20222 seems to apply, however I find it curious that this same failure is happening to 4 vehicles in VIN sequence. I have older and newer CVPIs with more miles than these cars that have had no problems with the transmissions. SSM 20222 indicates that this problem happens as a result of overspeed, however there are no indications of high speed manual downshifts or other factors that would cause engine or vehicle overspeed. The operator and job assignments are not common to all vehicles. Normally, these transmissions have been fairly strong if the services are kept up and the proper trans. fluid is used. Ford is not really interested since we replaced the transmissions ourselves (with Ford Factory Reman's) and the vehicle mileage is between 60,000 & 90,000 miles. However, 6 transmissions in a year & a half - that's a lotta transmissions for us! More than in the previous 10 years! Anybody out there with similar problems/solutions?

paint peeling

boardman — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 12:27:41 GMT

Did Ford extend the warranty on paint peeling? I know there was problems with the rear pillars of the black and whites. I have a white 04 w/105,000 and a 06 w/115,000 with the paint peeling/blowing off the hood (badly). The local dealer seems to think that there is no warranty left. I know Ford talked about this at the Fleet Expo, but I do not remember what they said. If anyone has information please let me know. Thanks.

Dash Problems

deputy81L — Wed, 01 Dec 2010 22:53:29 GMT

I have a 2006 Ford Crown Vic Police Interceptor. I am having a problem with the dash. As I am driving it all the warning lights come on and the speedometer, tach, and odometer all stop working. I have had it to the shop on two occassions and they can't seem to figure out the problem. The problem seems to get worse as the weather gets colder. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

2011 Headrest

boardman — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:21:34 GMT

Has anyone noticed that the 2011 seat headrest's are much larger causing more blind spots, harder to mount weapons on the partition and unconformable to drive. Can anything be done? I am getting bad feedback from the Officer's on comfort.. I Also noticed that they did away with the air lumbar support. ? . ?

Fast idle setup for '05 CVPI

Car53WhereRU — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:13:19 GMT

First allow me to say hello to everyone here. I was not able to attend PFE this year due to budgets but hope to be back next year. I am a DS with a small County Sheriff's Office and responsible for up-fitting our vehicles. Our K-9 unit is a 2005 CVPI and the Deputy that it is assigned to has asked me to install a "fast idle" set up on it. I have not been able to find a commercial add on unit but read somewhere that it had been done "in house" by a department. Has anyone done this and if so would you please share your secret. Thanks for any input....Car53

WATER PUMPS

cruiserfix — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:24:32 GMT

Anyone one else having high water pump failures in 2007/2008 Crown Vic's? Bearing noise?

Cooling fans

SFPD — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:48:06 GMT

Anyone out there starting to experience cooling fans and relay failures? I have three 2007 that just turned 36,000 out of warranty with this problem and i have one 2009 under warranty just developed the same problems.

2009 Crown Vic. HORN RING

boardman — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:29:53 GMT

Did they change the horn ring wire on the 09 Crown Vic? I usually tap into the dark blue wire under the driver's dash. Now that dark blue wire has power to it. When I hook up the Federal Signal Smart Siren I need the ground wire to the horn relay which was that dark blue wire.. ??.

Crown Vic lower ball joints

blue-witty — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 11:06:28 GMT

Has anybody had an issue with lower ball joint breakage. I have had 2 different 2005's that the shank on ball joints have broken clean.:w00t:

brake lights

boardman — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:47:35 GMT

I am having a problem with 2004 CVPI w/cruise control, the brake lights intermittently do not work in the rear however the third brake light works normally. Power comes out of the switch, then I believe it goes through the turn signal switch then lighting control module. I traced the power towards the drivers side rear channel where the harness runs and found no power to the green with red strip wire. Why is the third brake light working and not the others in the rear? I did play musical parts with a known good LCM, turn signal switch and even a brake light switch. I ran out of time Friday at work and now I am going to be thinking about it all weekend, I have to be over looking something, maybe something with the cruise..?. Help...

Paint

SFPD — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:32:03 GMT

I have a 2003 C/Vic with 36,000 miles. Anyone having issues with the black paint on hood not sticking? This car recently got involved in a crash with impact to right side fender and hood. I noticed that I was able to peel off the black paint with primer totally off the metal. I know they had problems earlier with the white not sticking towards the rear window pillars. Just curious.

Bent Wheels

boardman — Wed, 21 May 2008 07:13:43 GMT

Is anyone noticing the 17" wheels (2007-08) seem to bend easier that previous model year wheels. I know the roads are bad with potholes and sometimes my guys drive like they are in Hazard County.

Maybe it is just me, I get a lot of complaints about vibration and it seems like every time I change tires the wheels are bent badly along the bead area. ??

Decontamination of police vehicles

SFPD — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:30:13 GMT

Anyone out there currently have in place a method of decontaminating the interior of a police vehicle where a prisoner had lice, MRSA, Staph, TB, bed bugs? We have a machine and product which sovled the problem in 15 minutes with no delay down time for vehicles being placed out of service. Our CALOSHA and Dept.of Public Health do not like this product and is fast to stop helping the officers. I don't see them trying to be proactive as we were looking for a solution for this problem on behalf of the officers.

TIRE PRESSURE MONITOR SYSTEM

Admin — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:02:57 GMT

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Posted by boardman

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I just got my 08's in, does anybody know if you mix the 17" wheels from 06-07 and install them on a 08 will it fault the TPM system?
Example: When a 2008 needs tires replaced and I bring it into the shop grabbing 4 already mounted & balanced 17" Goodyears off the shelf and installing them, and lets say only 2 wheels have sensors in them. Will the TPM light come on?
I know there is a recalibration tool Ford sells that I have to purchase.
I guess my question would be, does all 4 sensor wheels have to stay on the 2008? Thanks for any help... --Mike

06 CVPI Front Suspension Squeak

JNielsen — Sun, 11 May 2008 00:08:58 GMT

I drive an '06 CVPI with only 30,000 miles. Supervisors's vehicle and thus the low miles. Since it was nearly new we have a loud squeak that sounds like it is coming from the front suspension. It does not always squeak but when it does it sounds like old coil bed springs. Squeaks when you hit any bump in the road and you can induce it by turning the steering wheel from side to side when driving 15 MPH. Dealer replaced the front sway bar bushings and the squeak returned after a couple of shifts. Seems worst in damp weather. I think lubrication might be a solution. Anyone experienced the same? Any suggestions?

Lt Jim Nielsen, Moorhead PD, Moorhead MN

R/axle seals

acopmech — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:44:46 GMT

Is anybody else having a lot of rear axle seals leaking & bad bearings on the 8.8 axles?

We are constantly changing them, especially after the car was put through a pursuit driving school ! Anyone come up with a fix?

Batteries

pakrz — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:50:33 GMT

I didn't see a "Battery" section so I figured I'd post this in the Crown Vic area since it's related to that vehicle.

We are currently having problems with battery life in our Crown Vics. Our squads are equipped with a radio, MDC, radar and MobileVision camera systems. All of these obviously draw power when the car isn't running. We have Battery Savers in each car that monitors the battery life and cuts the power to the car accessories when the power gets too low.

When an officer is at the PD for whatever reason and shuts the car off, the battery only lasts for about 30 minutes to an hour. The Battery Saver then kicks in and kills the power to the accessories. Officers then have to restart/reboot the MDC, retest the radar and get everything going again. This process is frustrating to the patrol staff.

We currently have a master power switch that all of the accessories are wired into. One solution is to flip the switch off, killing all of the power. Again, this frustrates officers because they then have to take care of the MDC and radar each time. Furthermore, our Mobile Vision units wirelessly download data to our server when the cars are in the parking lot. This requires Mobile Vision to have power.

Leaving the cars running in the parking lot is not an option with our command staff.

I'm looking for any and all suggestions on how to remedy the problem. Is the only solution to purchase new batteries every six months? Would it be wise to look into purchasing a "Pulse Charger." How about solar panels?

Thanks for any help you can off.

Fords commitment to the police vehicle market

Panther Engineer — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:58:30 GMT

I feel Ford is waiting to long to provide some look in to the future after the CVPI. I know that things are changing in the auto industry daily, but I feel that it would be appropriate to at least say "we are working on something". Everyday more and more agencies are looking to other manufacturers since they do not want to wait until the end. Please Mr. Gratson tell us something!!!!

If you do not say anything we all think that you have nothing and look for options from other automobile manufacturers.

What will you buy after the CVPI is gone after 2010?

FireEMSPolice — Sun, 04 May 2008 20:13:37 GMT

It seems like the writing is on the wall for the Crown Victoria, Police Interceptor, Mercury Grand Marquis and Lincoln Town Car. All are "panther" platform cars and Ford will kill them all off after the 2010 model year. It bothers me that Ford is willing to throw in the towel on their best fleet vehicles and a great law enforcement sedan, and hand the market over to the likes of GM and Dodge.

What will you buy for your law enforcement sedan after the CVPI is gone?

2006 Ford Crown Victoria Dashboard Problem

LT601 — Fri, 23 May 2008 13:10:32 GMT

We are experiencing a problem with our 2006 Crown Victorias where all the dash lights come on and at the same time the speedo, tach, odmeter all shut down. It has been to the dealership several times and they can't figure it out. Also, when this occurs the power steering acts up on the vehicle for about 30 seconds.

New Crown Vic side airbags

SFPD — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:10:28 GMT

For thoise who could not attend Police Fleet Expo in Milwaukee, I asked this question to the new Ford guy - (M. Blackmers replacement) since the 09 will come standard with the side airbags deploying from the seats, my department is constantly repairing the torn seat material caused by the holsters and gear rubbing through. With OEM airbag and stitching, are we allowed to put seat covers or have our fabric guy redo the seat? He responded back to me in two days after conferring with engineers which stated "we don't recommend it" so if you have torn seats in the new 09 expect to buy a new replacement seat with airbags. FYI

Engine Hour Meter

FireEMSPolice — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:44:38 GMT

Does anyone have any use for that engine hour meter on the CVPI?

2006 Crown Victoria Transmission Slip

LT601 — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:27:06 GMT

We are experiencing a transmission slip at 18 mph that generally happens while turning. Ford has replaced the transmission (12,000) and as of late cleaned out the valve body. The vehicle only has 36,000 miles and Ford can't figure it out. Anyone experiencing the same problem or have any suggestions?

Anything To Change With The 2009 P/I ?

Ulver — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:20:17 GMT

Just curious... I was thinking of buying a new P/I, if 2009 models had any major improvement, namely more horsepower.

Otherwise, I might see who is sitting on some low-mile '08's at the end of the year.;)

I thought a couple models back, there were rumors, of a major upgrade for the '09's.

Thanks & stay safe...:D

Driver's seat floor bracket

SFPD — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:58:06 GMT

Anyone having driver's seat floor brackets breaking? I have six 2003 coming in frequently for repairs.

Horn ring interface wiring

Admin — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:18:44 GMT

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Posted by MasterBlasterInstallWhiz

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To make a long story short, we generally order the horn/siren wiring prep package, no problems till 2007 when Ford decided to cancel this option, yet we were charged for it, got a refund.... finally.

Talked with Ford reps @ PFE 2007, they stated that the option was being discontinued and would not be on the order sheet for 2008.

We needed to replace a wrecked car, found a new 2008 that will be delivered in 2 weeks, and guess what option it has..... yep, horn/siren interface wiring prep.

Anybody else have these things pop up with their orders?

TIA
MBIW
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2006-2007 CVPI Cooling Fans

Admin — Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:11:02 GMT

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I have 15 model year 2006 CVPI in my fleet. Each one has been in the shop for overheating/cooling fan failure. Some are now out of warranty and returning for the same thing. I have 14 model year 2007 CVPI and guess what??? I sent two of them to the shop today with the same problem. Is anyone else experiencing OEM cooling fan failure on late model CVPI?? I know there is a Ford service bulletin on the issue, but I am pushing for a total recall!! Please let me know.